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don't call me billy ([personal profile] omniavincit) wrote in [community profile] returnjourneyooc2022-02-25 07:27 pm

either you die a villain or you live long enough to see yourself calling warden meetings

HOWDY EVERYONE (wardens) (sorry inmates you can go back to trying to concoct poisonous toothpaste), I come bearing an update on everyone's favorite piece of longform nonfiction, VOLK'S LIST. William contacted the Navarch about it and received the following response.

He'll be calling (and sigh reluctantly attending) a warden meeting. THIS TIME WE WILL HAVE MORE THAN ONE PERSON WATCHING THE INMATES DURING IT!! As far as meeting content: William would make a point of mentioning: everything pertaining to points 1, 2, 5, 6, and 7, and would encourage wardens to talk to the Navarch themselves, as well as ask their inmates about their experiences/what could be improved.

William will openly discuss a lot of this, but he's paranoid about some things and I'm a slow tagger, so if your char would be stalking the Navarch's inbox feel free to run with whatever strikes your fancy! It's all visible to wardens and there are a ton of hooks here, if it's something your char would be interested in, LIVE YOUR DREAMS (though please add a note here so everyone knows what's up/can plot with each other!).
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[personal profile] nineteenfortyfive 2022-02-26 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
William really out here trying to get on Claire's Shit List and bring Alice and Aki with him 😌
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[personal profile] helenite 2022-02-26 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
sorry!! you're just not a real dentist!!

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Re: William

[personal profile] saklas 2022-02-26 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
volk choking on his own blood & dying at the implication that somebody knows about his medical history

other stuff drowned out by that part in case you want to handwave this meeting

other primary reaction:

Oh so she does meet with inmates. I am getting in there. Watch me. [does 1/3 of a kickflip and wipes out on the sidewalk]
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cw suicide mentions

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[personal profile] professor_charisma 2022-02-26 04:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Waver: disappointed but not surprised in Volk
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[personal profile] saklas 2022-02-26 05:04 pm (UTC)(link)
hey,


...hey

the plan was not originally to try to maim you

ok

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[personal profile] expectaspectre 2022-02-26 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
what if they get in there and it's just full of like unused classroom furniture and old phones
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cw self harm

[personal profile] helenite 2022-02-28 08:06 am (UTC)(link)
some starter worst case scenarios from alice:

- inmate waits in there with a scalpel to knife the first person to come check it out
- inmate does surgery on themselves or something similarly horrific
- inmate manages to both get drugs / a scalpel, and get cover for drugs / scalpel, and they only find the cover
- someone puts a bomb (??) in the infirmary
- someone otherwise wrecks the infirmary / leaves it in a persistent state of disrepair
- someone presses the emergency button so often that it becomes a boy who cried wolf scenario and they don't respond to an actual emergency
- someone takes all the good bandaid designs and only the plain ones are left
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[personal profile] nineteenfortyfive 2022-03-01 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
fucken +1 from claire on all of this alice you are now Her Favorite
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cw suicide

[personal profile] spanning 2022-03-03 07:52 am (UTC)(link)
maybe the bomb is just the destroy it we blew up along the way

some more worst case scenarios from aki:
- inmate steals and stockpiles shit over time, could go unnoticed if they're clever and familiar w cylindrical locks
- inmate redistributes/hides stolen shit before anyone can figure out where it went; the ship is huge
- inmate fucks with the autodoc or other equipment and no one notices until it's too late (what could a fucked up autodoc do?) (probably body horror)
- inmate just plain has no idea what they're doing and fucks themselves up with the infirmary equipment
- inmate murders someone in a stasis pod??? (he has zero concept of rp hiatus comas rn, but he's read dbz ok)
- inmate presses the button to distract wardens from smth actually pressing
- there is at least one suicidal person aboard the peregrine and a lot of potentially dangerous things in the infirmary
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[personal profile] grindset 2022-02-27 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Viktor's suggestion for the Infirmary panic button, should he become aware of it at any time: rig it up to alert every warden's CommLink the instant someone requests emergency access, both to keep everyone aware and to (ideally) discourage inmates from screwing around with it. (OOC it is also a way to piss off every warden at once and/or draw attention away from coordinated hijinks.)

He may also bring up—or more likely encourage Alice to bring up—the idea of contriving some shared purposes/objectives for the inmates when there's nothing else really going on (and wardens too, why exclude anyone). Something in the spirit of Chores But That's Boring And Belittling So Not Only Chores. He would not suggest stupid team building exercises but I might be suggesting stupid team building exercises. (He was going to raise this with William directly at some point.)

V would also volunteer to ditch this meeting and instead observe inmates. Look how responsible, so selfless, wow
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[personal profile] shiftedshape 2022-02-27 06:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Loki would point out that if they're able to rig an alert, they could potentially set up a way for warden's to open the infirmary remotely as well. Maybe take advantage of the biotech and have the alert indicate which inmate's attempting access so wardens can decide whether to open it. (OOC: so wardens can fight about whether warden A letting inmate X into the infirmary was the right choice, wardens can fuck up and leave an inmate bleeding out because they don't trust them, etc...)

He'll also observe that on the previous ship, inmates who weren't interested in doing their assigned jobs just...didn't do them. And here a lot of chores are just 100% not necessary because of the tech. He agrees that the inmates need something to do, but it might mean coming up with individual tasks for each inmate so they stay engaged and actually get something out of it-- possibly off-ship more often than not. Maybe they can ask the Navarch for updates on what sorts of planets (etc.) they're passing so wardens can come up with mission ideas?

...Hey uh you want a double to come with you just. For no reason. Not so you don't look alone and easy to knock out and stuff into a closet or anything.
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[personal profile] grindset 2022-02-27 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
.............no

(yes)

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[personal profile] helenite 2022-02-28 08:13 am (UTC)(link)
alice would icly be against this, for exactly those ooc reasons: she doesn't think remote access solves the issue of "there's a genuine emergency and i can't go to a warden / they're not paying attention right now"

THAT SAID, i am ooc in favour of fun, and think there are still ways to work those in even if majority of characters would be for or against it (which i don't know! idk how we poll for that!)

if we go ahead and have folks install an emergency button it should DEFINITELY be prone to misfires, not working, etc.

alice would agree that people who don't want to work aren't going to, and doesn't think that's an issue. she supports him (him!!) being the one to ask the navarch about planets for mission brainstorming. she'll brainstorm some on-ship stuff that doesn't involve talking to their scary boss. thanks bro!!

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[personal profile] helenite 2022-02-28 08:09 am (UTC)(link)
alice in favour of it pinging everyone!! and i like it for OOC reasons

she'll also be on board with the idea of Shared Goals, and push hard on involving wardens in them too. she'll brainstorm some given our current inmate list, and i'll probably throw up a network post for people to weigh in on
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[personal profile] spanning 2022-03-03 08:12 am (UTC)(link)
aki is skeptical of the button but if it goes through, an alert is probably the best compromise, even if he'll immediately be like "btw inmates could actually distract us this way." but that's also something he'd be like, ok, we can at least communicate with each other about whoever's going to check it out or w/e (not that this necessarily keeps the investigating wardens from getting incapacitated).

if the Chores But Not come up, he will comment that they need to give the inmates a solid incentive to do anything and would ask what people thought any of the inmates wanted that the wardens can actually, y'know, give them.

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[personal profile] shiftedshape 2022-02-27 07:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Loki will look relieved at how thorough and thoughtful the Navarch's response is. :T But he may vaguely indicate he's planning to talk to the Navarch at some point anyway. Just. Gotta. Get up the nerve to have yet another purpose potentially turn out to be bullshit. Sigh.

He'll note that visiting inmates' worlds for observation purposes is something he can assist with. Invisibility, glamors, etc. He can get you in and out of there no problem (probably).

As noted under Viktor's thread, Loki will suggest remote opening of the infirmary doors over blanket access, not that that's necessarily any less chaotic.

(Also, this is a good time for anyone who's made the connection between Loki and Malekith to poke him about that.)
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[personal profile] expectaspectre 2022-02-28 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
UNRELATED TO ANYTHING ELSE IN DISCUSSION because she has nothing else useful to add that hasn't already been covered by people more clever than she is:

Grace would like to quietly suggest that someone with the know-how should please fix the Destroyin' Stuff Machine so that it actually functions whenever it inevitably becomes necessary. Because you never know and the idea of being caught unawares and having to fix it last minute to destroy, idk, some kind of Incredibly Contagious Fungus or something before it escapes and infects the entire ship somehow is something out of a sci-fi movie and she's already having enough trouble sleeping at night.
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[personal profile] helenite 2022-02-28 08:02 am (UTC)(link)
alice volunteers to stay very far away from it

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[personal profile] grindset 2022-02-28 04:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Give Me Helpful Engineering Side-Projects For The Love Of God I Am Perishing Over Here: a novel, by Viktor Tendercrisp

He doesn't know this device but how hard can it be. Surely his new strigiformic bestie would give him a kit. Maybe the Destroy-It would become even better at Destroying It. Maybe it would also become a functional toaster. Maybe whoever broke it should have to help him.

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[personal profile] grindset 2022-03-06 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
A wee update: Project Un-Destroy The Destroy-It is go. The likelihood of Viktor willingly dragging anyone else into it has become exponentially slimmer since Archimedes pointed out the risk of explosion - he's gonna get all weird and secretive about it now - but if anyone wants in on it we can still make it happen, for we are like unto deities and can do whatever we want.